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...who gets to decide... by Ironiada ...who gets to decide... by Ironiada
A big thank you to my love :iconromaniantragedy: , for lending me her camera and making this "article" possible. [link]

The above is not meant to be incriminating to any person, of any social status. They were not waited for they were not hunted down, they were there.

All photos were taken on December 2nd 2009, around Sala Polivalenta, Iasi Romania.

You may not use any of the images without my consent.

Any feedback is welcomed and encouraged :)

Camera used: Canon 400D + kit lens

Again but never sorry, thanking :icondamien-c2: and :iconestudio: for making the DD possible

:icondrowtfs: gave an ample comment that better explains the phenomenon, and much more. So please take time to read it.

"to be very honest, in the beginning it looked like they were unemployed people queueing up for something like applying for some state-sponsored jobs or queueing up for unemployment allowance or something like that.
Anyway, I certainly know what you are talking about. My feeling is that this is unfortunately inescapable, and the game of politics is always this one: manipulation of masses, where the players try to give populations whatever reason they need (wine, for example) to give them what they want from them (the power). And in order to get elected, a leader will even have to transform himself into different things for different people.
Personally, I just don't believe in a truly conscious and independent population at large. Maybe because a big part of people just doesn't want to be conscious or maybe because populations are so insanely large in today's world and they become so isolated and lack any sense of community at all. Sometimes, the only direct leadership a lot of people have end up being the television in their living room or a face in printed media, and no one ever looks into their eyes to make a direct connection to them in everyday life. It's really like they are hipnotized and the only thing that matters is what happens on TV, and any interactions people have seem to be in some unimportant corner of the world and they themselves don't believe their lives are really as important as the things they see on TV, so they have a hard time believing that they have a voice that counts. That way, people forget what leadership is and start treating it as ordinary consumption, hence the wine distribution for added value over the opposing candidates. That's why a lot of people seem to think that politics is something you can like or not like, instead of something that's necessarily a part of life for anyone who lives in society.
If these leaders were in it because they have a powerful wish to see their country be a better place for its population, it wouldn't matter that populations voted for them because they offered a picnic, what matters is that they elected a good leader. But the problem is that most of the time these people are just career politicians.
So what we really need is for people that care about things to not feel alienated or intimidated by the filthy corrupt political establishment that is in place in any given country, and move in and start taking political territory, cuz no change will happen if the people that have the vision don't make it happen. And that's the truly selfless leader, you take a population that doesn't even deserve it and you nurture them and care deeply about them, even though maybe they just accepted you because you gave them free wine.
That's not to say that your article is unimportant, certainly not. You do your share by documenting and writing about it, giving voice to people that have it in them but don't think it is a welcome thing to say. How many people in the world know what's wrong with it but don't want to disrupt the status quo? Too many... And they depend on other people speaking for them, so they can join in the choir.
Thanks for the article and for inspiring some thoughts, it's great to see it.."
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arienhly Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter

E inca adevarat. Ma gandesc daca oare va fi vreodata altfel.

Foarte bine realizat, aproape m-a facut sa plang.

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Ironiada Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Oh damn... si pe tine ? ... poate ca ar trebui sa ma apuc de facut fotojurnalism... :))

nu o as se schimbe nimic. trebuie doar sa te lupti tu cu tine sa nu le mai accepti. orice schimbare incepe cu tine
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arienhly Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter

Ar fi interesant :) Binenteles, pe orice roman cu capul pe umeri si mintea limpede vei reusi sa misti cu acest articol.



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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
nu e vb doar de romani pt ca problemele sunt universale. daca e sa te uiti prin commenturile din urma, ai sa vezi ca problema expusa mai sus este prezenta cam peste tot.
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MsxoxoS Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011
Trist. Totul este exact asa cum ai scris.... Si din pacate probabil asa va fi mult timp de acum inainte.
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:iconjoharasaluki:
joharasaluki Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2011
It's no different anywhere else. In first world countries (west), the political parties needed only to learn "how" to speak to the educated masses. The result is the same. They serve themselves and the new world order. A far greater power pulls the strings of political figures so all in all, it doesn't matter where we live or who we vote for. There will always be the unseen back room.
I wish your people all the best.
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
It will always be the same. It will. You make a fair point when you say that the politicians have learned to manipulate the educated too. There's actually no real way to escape this except by making the best out of your life , slaloming between thieves and liars.
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:iconjoharasaluki:
joharasaluki Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2011
I agree. We will always be victims of the pitfalls, but we can find ways to soften the landing.
I also believe in karma and the laws of nature. These people think that just because they live on the biggest hill and possess the lion's share of the wealth, they are immune to these laws. Knowing this is what makes me smile while enduring their rhetoric.
I am a blue collar working man.....I raise my glass to all my brothers.
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
:ahoy:
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BohemianDreamer13 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2011
just...Wow! Touching, Moving, And scary.
and your captions are what makes the images come to life. And they fit so many counties today, sadly...Great work, and thanks!
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
it is scarry, i'll gice you that :) thanks for stopping by
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EDYXXXSPICER Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2010
sorry those are gipsy not romaniens
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
a lot of them were actually...
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:iconagent6-7:
Agent6-7 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2010
As vrea o Romanie in care oameni sa nu aiba de ales dintre 2 rele ala mai putin rau.
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Povesti!
O sa fiu stresat de cum am sami gasesc un serviciu in afara tarii nu invers,mam saturat de mizerie.
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elyvirlan Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
pacat k asta nu e facebook, ti-as fi dat like fara sa mai stresez lumea cu un comment :)
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:iconagent6-7:
Agent6-7 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2011
:D
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
m-am saturat de nepasare si mentalitate de furat din orice...
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:iconagent6-7:
Agent6-7 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2010
Mam saturat sa-mi fie frica de moarte cand ma duc la spital...
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cruel-heartz-breaker Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2010  Professional General Artist
Greaaaaaaat work.. regards
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
thank you :)
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:iconcruel-heartz-breaker:
cruel-heartz-breaker Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2010  Professional General Artist
you're welcome
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RiddleMe Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2010
Tragic, especially considering what is going on today. Will we ever be able to rise above this level?
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
who knows... I guess it depends on each ones decision to rise. Then we can only hope that there are so much of those that rise so as to make a difference , to the best
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playingyourlastsong Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2010
Bravo! O linie, o trasatura pe care multi o evita sau o ignora pur si simplu in ziua de astazi. Tocmai nepasarea va face lucruri si mai rele. Bravo si felicitari.

~Alex.
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Multumesc si ma bucur ca iti place :)
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:iconbenchislett:
BenChislett Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2010
Dear Ironiada,

I love your pictures and feel you earnt every last bit of that DD, but...

...I couldn't disagree more with your cynical point of view and I'm sure many of the people you have portrayed would also strongly disagree with you, most of them being old enough to have lived under the tyranny of the "reformist" leader who "cared about his people". Would you prefer to have another Ceauşescu to the choice of the "ignorant masses"?

I'm sure it was better back then with jobs (forced labour) and people disappearing in the middle of the night...

I don't doubt that many do not really know who they are voting for, but neither can anyone blame them for taking what little they can. If you had nothing, you would know this to be true.

After what they have been through, their apathy is also blameless, anything is better than what they had before.

The decision of the people is not always what you would like, neither are the politicians (ok, this is a gross understatement), but at the end of the day it does mean there can be change, hopefully for the better (which I'm sure is what we all would like to see for Romania).

I didn't really want to get into a political debate, but I loved your images and after reading your comment felt the need to tell you what I thought.

I love that your work gave me so much food for thought.
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Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Ben... I've not been called a cynic before but to your words, I give truth. the people would disagree with me and many of the ones there did live the tyranny of Ceausescu..which is why they should be more careful.

It was better back then because they had no real choices. Now they have choices. A lot of people died for the choices they have today.

...how do you know it was better then?

"The decision of the people is not always what you would like" I am very aware of that... I am powerless against the crowd , but this is my way of getting a part of the crowd to think it over...

At the moment I'm not thinking straight.. just gout out of a couple of stressful days at college... I 'll give your comment a second look when I'll reconnect to society like before :)

thank you for sharing your thoughts on the matter :)
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carny87 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2010
We have the same situation here in Bulgaria, which is really sad too see.
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Yes it is...
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:icononure:
onure Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Nonetheless, people all over the world treat democcracy as if it was a sanctum despite the fact that any form of governance isn‘t practised to serve but to rule over the mob which bring them to power...great work!
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Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you !
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Lumysaara Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2010
Romania is one scary place to live in :no:
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
the whole world is scary....
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:iconbioc:
bioc Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
You took some great shots there!
And the essay speaks the truth.

A very well deserved DD indeed.
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you for watching :)
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coolio2654 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2010
Good job
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks :)
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rubberbend Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2010
Way to speak up to the man!
Here's how the Phils. sucks ass with politics:
[link]
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
I can see why this got a DD. Well done! :D
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you for the support :)
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:iconkitsumekat:
kitsumekat Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2010
You're welcome :)
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SpeakersBlown Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
A very powerful piece. We just read part of Thoreau's work, which reminded me of this. An excellent job on the entire work.
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you very much :)
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Seiglie Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010   Photographer
My deepest and most sincere congratulations for the DD, Alex. I knew that this wonderful piece of photojournalism more sooner that later would receive one, it was just a matter of time. Cheers mate!!!! :#1: ::clap: :worship: :party:
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you for the support , Sergio, my friend :manhug:

It's 1:33 in the morning and I think your comment is the last one of the whole... I'm not complaining , I had a lot to learn.

:ahoy: mate
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DorianStretton Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Exactly the same sort of thing used to happen here in Britain as the political franchise was expanded during the 19th Century. If enough people in Romania protest about the situation then it will change. Unfortunately it may take some time.
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
I don't think the people have the will , courage and need to protest... That happened 20 years ago, when we escaped communism...
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DorianStretton Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Like I said it will probably take some time, and protest isn't just confined to street demonstrations. Also, if Romania really wants to join the European Union then effective action will have to taken to eliminate such corruptions of the democratic process.
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taniafarias Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Ver nice work!!
I appreciate very much, congratilions.
:)
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:iconironiada:
Ironiada Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you, Tania :)
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